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		<title>By: Black Coffee: My Favorite Blogs, Money News &#38; Opinions #24</title>
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		<dc:creator>Black Coffee: My Favorite Blogs, Money News &#38; Opinions #24</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 06:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Fiscal Fizzle&#8230; where Wojo has some really good tips on how to stay frugal and focused in an economic recovery. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Fiscal Fizzle&#8230; where Wojo has some really good tips on how to stay frugal and focused in an economic recovery. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Len Penzo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Len Penzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 00:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kevin:  Ah, shucks... thanks!  I just wish the Honeybee was that receptive to some of my other non-personal-finance lines!  ;-)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kevin:  Ah, shucks&#8230; thanks!  I just wish the Honeybee was that receptive to some of my other non-personal-finance lines!  <img src='http://www.fiscalfizzle.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
<span class="cluv"> Len Penzo´s last post: <a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/LenPenzo/~3/vhkVwUSyHa4/id851-black-coffee-my-favorite-blogs-money-news-opinions-24.html" rel="nofollow">Black Coffee: My Favorite Blogs, Money News &amp; Opinions #24</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://www.fiscalfizzle.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Bret @ Hope to Prosper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bret @ Hope to Prosper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 22:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After the Great Depression, that generation was changed for the rest of their lives.  I remember when my Great Aunt died in the &#039;90s, my Mom gave us each a small stack of $100 bills that looked like they were from the &#039;50s.  My Mom said my Great Aunt and Uncle never trusted banks after the &#039;30s and always kept some cash in a safe.

Fortunately, despite all of the media hype, the threshold of pain from this recession wasn&#039;t anywhere near what it was in the Great Depression.  So, many Americans will sign right back up for car payments as soon as they get a job.  I hope at least some of the people who started saving the 5% will stick with it in the future.  It sure is a comforting feeling to have money put away.
.-= Bret @ Hope to Prosper´s last post: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.toprosper.com/article/Senators%20want%20new%20tax%20limit%20on%20health%20execs%20pay&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Senators want new tax limit on health execs pay&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After the Great Depression, that generation was changed for the rest of their lives.  I remember when my Great Aunt died in the &#8217;90s, my Mom gave us each a small stack of $100 bills that looked like they were from the &#8217;50s.  My Mom said my Great Aunt and Uncle never trusted banks after the &#8217;30s and always kept some cash in a safe.</p>
<p>Fortunately, despite all of the media hype, the threshold of pain from this recession wasn&#8217;t anywhere near what it was in the Great Depression.  So, many Americans will sign right back up for car payments as soon as they get a job.  I hope at least some of the people who started saving the 5% will stick with it in the future.  It sure is a comforting feeling to have money put away.<br />
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		<title>By: Kevin@OutOfYourRut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin@OutOfYourRut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 12:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Len Penzo--I LOVE your last line, &quot;The reward for me, or anybody else who makes such a commitment, of course, is that eventually you become financially free-enough to pretty much do what you want, without regard to how the economy is doing.&quot;

IMHO, that line captures the essence and ultimate goal of personal finance.  Not to have X amount of money, or be living a certain lifestyle or having certain investments, etc, but to be at a point of being able to break free of it all and to live a life of our own choosing.   That&#039;s a way of being rich without necessarily being wealthy.
.-= Kevin@OutOfYourRut´s last post: &lt;a href=&quot;http://outofyourrut.com/blog/2009/12/03/finding-work-by-working-for-free/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Finding Work by Working for Free&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Len Penzo&#8211;I LOVE your last line, &#8220;The reward for me, or anybody else who makes such a commitment, of course, is that eventually you become financially free-enough to pretty much do what you want, without regard to how the economy is doing.&#8221;</p>
<p>IMHO, that line captures the essence and ultimate goal of personal finance.  Not to have X amount of money, or be living a certain lifestyle or having certain investments, etc, but to be at a point of being able to break free of it all and to live a life of our own choosing.   That&#8217;s a way of being rich without necessarily being wealthy.<br />
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		<title>By: Wojciech Kulicki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wojciech Kulicki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 11:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed--the key I think is actually getting to the point where you can be that independent of what&#039;s going on around you.

I don&#039;t know--maybe it&#039;s just me--but I see how people react to their friends and neighbors during good times, and during bad times, and I think it has a big influence on how we act with our money, even if we do it subconsciously.

But if you&#039;re steadfast in your goals, like you were, to get to the point of independence, then yes--I think you should ignore the outside world and do what you think is right for yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed&#8211;the key I think is actually getting to the point where you can be that independent of what&#8217;s going on around you.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know&#8211;maybe it&#8217;s just me&#8211;but I see how people react to their friends and neighbors during good times, and during bad times, and I think it has a big influence on how we act with our money, even if we do it subconsciously.</p>
<p>But if you&#8217;re steadfast in your goals, like you were, to get to the point of independence, then yes&#8211;I think you should ignore the outside world and do what you think is right for yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Len Penzo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Len Penzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 04:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with your blogger bud, Wojo.  I too, &quot;don&#039;t buy into the economy.&quot;  It wasn&#039;t always that way with me though: When I was in my mid twenties and just getting my financial feet under me, I did temper myself to the economy.   I know I did through the doldrums of the early to mid-1990s.

Lucky for me, over the past 20 years I have been able to maintain a course of saving, investing, and living within my means - just practicing responsible personal financial management.  The reward for me, or anybody else who makes such a commitment, of course, is that eventually you become financially free-enough to pretty much do what you want, without regard to how the economy is doing.

Best,

Len
Len Penzo dot Com
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with your blogger bud, Wojo.  I too, &#8220;don&#8217;t buy into the economy.&#8221;  It wasn&#8217;t always that way with me though: When I was in my mid twenties and just getting my financial feet under me, I did temper myself to the economy.   I know I did through the doldrums of the early to mid-1990s.</p>
<p>Lucky for me, over the past 20 years I have been able to maintain a course of saving, investing, and living within my means &#8211; just practicing responsible personal financial management.  The reward for me, or anybody else who makes such a commitment, of course, is that eventually you become financially free-enough to pretty much do what you want, without regard to how the economy is doing.</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Len<br />
Len Penzo dot Com<br />
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		<title>By: Wojciech Kulicki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wojciech Kulicki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 11:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations on your new home! I&#039;m happy that you were able to take advantage of the current market.

Couponing is one things that I haven&#039;t really gotten into yet, although I understand the idea and how to do it. But I have found other ways of reducing grocery costs, like shopping at a different store.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations on your new home! I&#8217;m happy that you were able to take advantage of the current market.</p>
<p>Couponing is one things that I haven&#8217;t really gotten into yet, although I understand the idea and how to do it. But I have found other ways of reducing grocery costs, like shopping at a different store.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 03:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We will continue to use couponing after the recession clears.  We became homeowners during the recession and we have lots of reasons to continue to tighten the belt.
.-= Ken´s last post: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.moneymakingsense.com/?p=49&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Setting Financial Goals: Get S.M.A.R.T.&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We will continue to use couponing after the recession clears.  We became homeowners during the recession and we have lots of reasons to continue to tighten the belt.<br />
<span class="cluv"> Ken´s last post: <a href="http://www.moneymakingsense.com/?p=49" rel="nofollow">Setting Financial Goals: Get S.M.A.R.T.</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://www.fiscalfizzle.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Wojciech Kulicki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wojciech Kulicki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 03:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Abigail--it sounds like you have things under control. Like you though, I&#039;m concerned about the abilities of the average consumer. In averages (unlike real life, I believe), there has to be a winner and a loser--someone will stay frugal, and most will return to their old ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abigail&#8211;it sounds like you have things under control. Like you though, I&#8217;m concerned about the abilities of the average consumer. In averages (unlike real life, I believe), there has to be a winner and a loser&#8211;someone will stay frugal, and most will return to their old ways.</p>
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		<title>By: Abigail</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abigail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 03:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I&#039;m only slightly more frugal now than I have been the rest of my life. I see no problem with remaining careful with money for the future. I have promised my husband that we can loosen the purse strings a little as we get out of debt. When we are finished with the credit cards, for example, I&#039;ll let him have some extra spending money again. (Right now, we&#039;re concerned I&#039;m going to lose my contract work, so all possible money goes to the debt.)

But I&#039;m always going to be against indiscriminate, excessive spending. We don&#039;t need every gadget that comes down the pipeline; we don&#039;t need every bit of decor that catches our eye at the store.

Unfortunately, I&#039;m pessimistic about Americans&#039; ability to remember this lesson. The recession is not nearly as bad as the Great Depression was, despite all the parallels people are drawing. It&#039;s not enough to change a generation, especially when this generation was living so much larger than the majority of folks in the 20s. Yeah, there were some stock market fat cats. But many people devastated by the depression were just working folks who suddenly couldn&#039;t find work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I&#8217;m only slightly more frugal now than I have been the rest of my life. I see no problem with remaining careful with money for the future. I have promised my husband that we can loosen the purse strings a little as we get out of debt. When we are finished with the credit cards, for example, I&#8217;ll let him have some extra spending money again. (Right now, we&#8217;re concerned I&#8217;m going to lose my contract work, so all possible money goes to the debt.)</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m always going to be against indiscriminate, excessive spending. We don&#8217;t need every gadget that comes down the pipeline; we don&#8217;t need every bit of decor that catches our eye at the store.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, I&#8217;m pessimistic about Americans&#8217; ability to remember this lesson. The recession is not nearly as bad as the Great Depression was, despite all the parallels people are drawing. It&#8217;s not enough to change a generation, especially when this generation was living so much larger than the majority of folks in the 20s. Yeah, there were some stock market fat cats. But many people devastated by the depression were just working folks who suddenly couldn&#8217;t find work.</p>
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