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		<title>By: Weekly Wisdom: Financial Freedom is One Post Away &#187; The Online Investing AI Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.fiscalfizzle.com/2010/01/projecting-managing-future-income/#comment-1024</link>
		<dc:creator>Weekly Wisdom: Financial Freedom is One Post Away &#187; The Online Investing AI Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 14:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Fiscal Fizzle wrote this extensive post on projecting and managing income. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Wojciech Kulicki</title>
		<link>http://www.fiscalfizzle.com/2010/01/projecting-managing-future-income/#comment-1023</link>
		<dc:creator>Wojciech Kulicki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 23:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin,

The baseline approach you&#039;re talking about it really good--it&#039;s an exercise that we often go through by re-working out current budget to reflect the worst-case scenario (protecting) as well as a goal scenario (planning).

It also helps to play with income shifts (what happens if income goes down 10%, up 10%, etc.&gt;?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin,</p>
<p>The baseline approach you&#8217;re talking about it really good&#8211;it&#8217;s an exercise that we often go through by re-working out current budget to reflect the worst-case scenario (protecting) as well as a goal scenario (planning).</p>
<p>It also helps to play with income shifts (what happens if income goes down 10%, up 10%, etc.>?)</p>
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		<title>By: Wojciech Kulicki</title>
		<link>http://www.fiscalfizzle.com/2010/01/projecting-managing-future-income/#comment-1022</link>
		<dc:creator>Wojciech Kulicki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 22:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Today&#039;s job market is probably THE most important reason for this approach. Even people with steady jobs and no warning of any change are being laid off to save companies a few salary dollars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today&#8217;s job market is probably THE most important reason for this approach. Even people with steady jobs and no warning of any change are being laid off to save companies a few salary dollars.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin I</title>
		<link>http://www.fiscalfizzle.com/2010/01/projecting-managing-future-income/#comment-1021</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin I</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 20:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For my wife and I this was the key idea that turned our finances around, we had always banked on future income. Not in a large way even, just a small one, next months paychecks pay off this months bills on the credit card (except rent, even with that craziness we had limits!), it was a very stressful prospect, we worried about &quot;what if&#039;s&quot; more than we should have, it took up a lot of emotional space and made us make some wacky financial decisions.

Just flipping that around, going lean for a few months so we could always live on past income changed everything, loads less stress, a lot less hang ups and it sort of kicked off a series of wiser financial decisions.

We lapsed on Christmas this year and when there was a brief moving around of how I was paid it brought all that stress and crazy back in!  I can&#039;t believe we used to live like that all the time.

I think a good rule of thumb for taking on things like student loans and homes and such that are extremely difficult to pay from the past is to ask yourself what paying those things off would look like from your &quot;zero&quot; the reasonable worst-case estimation of where you&#039;d be if it falls through for a while. When we had to take a small loan out for a car, it wasn&#039;t based on our finances now, we based it on what would happen if we had to move in with a friend or relative and work a low hourly wage again. It helped keep our spending in check and kept us with a reasonable car payment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For my wife and I this was the key idea that turned our finances around, we had always banked on future income. Not in a large way even, just a small one, next months paychecks pay off this months bills on the credit card (except rent, even with that craziness we had limits!), it was a very stressful prospect, we worried about &#8220;what if&#8217;s&#8221; more than we should have, it took up a lot of emotional space and made us make some wacky financial decisions.</p>
<p>Just flipping that around, going lean for a few months so we could always live on past income changed everything, loads less stress, a lot less hang ups and it sort of kicked off a series of wiser financial decisions.</p>
<p>We lapsed on Christmas this year and when there was a brief moving around of how I was paid it brought all that stress and crazy back in!  I can&#8217;t believe we used to live like that all the time.</p>
<p>I think a good rule of thumb for taking on things like student loans and homes and such that are extremely difficult to pay from the past is to ask yourself what paying those things off would look like from your &#8220;zero&#8221; the reasonable worst-case estimation of where you&#8217;d be if it falls through for a while. When we had to take a small loan out for a car, it wasn&#8217;t based on our finances now, we based it on what would happen if we had to move in with a friend or relative and work a low hourly wage again. It helped keep our spending in check and kept us with a reasonable car payment.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 11:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m in the &#039;rely on the past&#039; camp. My wife and I have used the &quot;pay cash only&quot; method before. If we can&#039;t pay cash, we don&#039;t buy it. In today&#039;s job market, this strategy is EVEN MORE NECESSARY. Good post.
.-= Ken´s last post: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.moneymakingsense.com/?p=114&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Making Retirement Days Your Best Days&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m in the &#8216;rely on the past&#8217; camp. My wife and I have used the &#8220;pay cash only&#8221; method before. If we can&#8217;t pay cash, we don&#8217;t buy it. In today&#8217;s job market, this strategy is EVEN MORE NECESSARY. Good post.<br />
<span class="cluv"> Ken´s last post: <a href="http://www.moneymakingsense.com/?p=114" rel="nofollow">Making Retirement Days Your Best Days</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://www.fiscalfizzle.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: ConsciouslyFrugal</title>
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		<dc:creator>ConsciouslyFrugal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 22:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I also agree that you can afford school with savings if you&#039;re not going Ivy. Lord knows you could when I went--the state school was only $65 per credit hour! (No, I&#039;m not that old.) Someday, I&#039;ll find a way to explain why I have student loan debt. *cough*stupidity*cough*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I also agree that you can afford school with savings if you&#8217;re not going Ivy. Lord knows you could when I went&#8211;the state school was only $65 per credit hour! (No, I&#8217;m not that old.) Someday, I&#8217;ll find a way to explain why I have student loan debt. *cough*stupidity*cough*</p>
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		<title>By: Wojciech Kulicki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wojciech Kulicki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 21:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You bring up awesome points about delayed gratification, and I hope you&#039;ve seen the famous &quot;marshmallow experiment&quot; with little kids!

Cars are definitely a really large purchase, but I think it&#039;s a reachable goal for many just by waiting and saving a few years (getting &quot;ahead of the curve,&quot; so to speak).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You bring up awesome points about delayed gratification, and I hope you&#8217;ve seen the famous &#8220;marshmallow experiment&#8221; with little kids!</p>
<p>Cars are definitely a really large purchase, but I think it&#8217;s a reachable goal for many just by waiting and saving a few years (getting &#8220;ahead of the curve,&#8221; so to speak).</p>
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		<title>By: Wojciech Kulicki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wojciech Kulicki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 21:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s very true--most people opt for the balanced approach (whether they work through it or have their parents help out), and finance the rest. Both my wife and I are in that camp.

I agree on the home point, even though it&#039;s as big (or an even bigger) gamble than student loans, because you&#039;re literally talking about the roof over your head. A responsible home purchase with adequate emergency savings is really important.

Glad to have made you think! Don&#039;t ever hesitate to write as much as you want. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s very true&#8211;most people opt for the balanced approach (whether they work through it or have their parents help out), and finance the rest. Both my wife and I are in that camp.</p>
<p>I agree on the home point, even though it&#8217;s as big (or an even bigger) gamble than student loans, because you&#8217;re literally talking about the roof over your head. A responsible home purchase with adequate emergency savings is really important.</p>
<p>Glad to have made you think! Don&#8217;t ever hesitate to write as much as you want. <img src='http://www.fiscalfizzle.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Wojciech Kulicki</title>
		<link>http://www.fiscalfizzle.com/2010/01/projecting-managing-future-income/#comment-1016</link>
		<dc:creator>Wojciech Kulicki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 21:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting point--I would tend to agree that a diploma opens a lot of doors, and not only in your chosen field. But I also second Matt&#039;s point that a diploma is reachable with savings, especially if you take advantage of state and local schools.

As an aside, I am in the exact career that college prepared me for (architecture), and I can tell you that it prepared me very little. So that tells me that even knowing exactly what I wanted to do didn&#039;t help. Not to mention that a diploma is a legal requirement in the US to practice...

All really interesting points to ponder!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting point&#8211;I would tend to agree that a diploma opens a lot of doors, and not only in your chosen field. But I also second Matt&#8217;s point that a diploma is reachable with savings, especially if you take advantage of state and local schools.</p>
<p>As an aside, I am in the exact career that college prepared me for (architecture), and I can tell you that it prepared me very little. So that tells me that even knowing exactly what I wanted to do didn&#8217;t help. Not to mention that a diploma is a legal requirement in the US to practice&#8230;</p>
<p>All really interesting points to ponder!</p>
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		<title>By: ConsciouslyFrugal</title>
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		<dc:creator>ConsciouslyFrugal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 20:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t agree with your last assertion, Matt. I don&#039;t know one single soul who is actually using their undergraduate degree at this point in time, but not one of us could have landed the gigs we have without that coveted piece of paper, even though our degrees had absolutely nothing to do with the careers we&#039;ve built.

Also, I&#039;ve hired and managed many folks over the years and have had battles more than once with HR, because I wanted to hire someone without a college degree who had ample experience in the field. Over and over I found myself turning away qualified folks, because HR policies would not allow us to hire people without a college degree (yes, even when we advertised positions with the caveat that experience could substitute for a lack o&#039; degree). This has happened at more than one company, and I doubt it is terribly uncommon.

I would suggest that folks get a degree in virtually anything (unless you are going into a particular vocation that requires a specialized degree at the undergraduate level), find a field they&#039;re interested in and enter at the highest level possible. Jumping from one major to another, if it results in adding an extra year or two of tuition, isn&#039;t a smart move, but there&#039;s no need to know precisely what you want to study.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t agree with your last assertion, Matt. I don&#8217;t know one single soul who is actually using their undergraduate degree at this point in time, but not one of us could have landed the gigs we have without that coveted piece of paper, even though our degrees had absolutely nothing to do with the careers we&#8217;ve built.</p>
<p>Also, I&#8217;ve hired and managed many folks over the years and have had battles more than once with HR, because I wanted to hire someone without a college degree who had ample experience in the field. Over and over I found myself turning away qualified folks, because HR policies would not allow us to hire people without a college degree (yes, even when we advertised positions with the caveat that experience could substitute for a lack o&#8217; degree). This has happened at more than one company, and I doubt it is terribly uncommon.</p>
<p>I would suggest that folks get a degree in virtually anything (unless you are going into a particular vocation that requires a specialized degree at the undergraduate level), find a field they&#8217;re interested in and enter at the highest level possible. Jumping from one major to another, if it results in adding an extra year or two of tuition, isn&#8217;t a smart move, but there&#8217;s no need to know precisely what you want to study.</p>
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