This guest post comes from Michael, a contributing editor of the Dough Roller, a personal finance and investing blog, and Credit Card Offers IQ, a credit card review site.
I may write about it at length in the future, but I actually spent the better part of my early teenage years helping my step-dad collect cans from the streets of New York. While it may sound gross and unsanitary to many of you, consider that we were not only doing a good public service, but it wasn’t unusual to make $20-$30 on a weekend morning.
For an 11-year-old, that was like hitting the lottery. It was one of my first lessons into how much hard work it takes to make a buck. With that in mind, I really enjoyed Michael’s guest post, and I hope you will too.
“…collecting bottles and cans could
turn into a very profitable hobby…”
Seinfeld quickly became one of the most well-known and well liked comedies of all time. One of the greatest episodes in the sitcom was when Kramer and Newman developed a strategy to collect bottles and cans in New York and deposit them in Michigan, where the money returned was doubled (5 cents vs. 10 cents). Comically, the plan falls through, but I was left to wonder whether or not a good enough profit could be made with the right circumstances.
When you think of career choices, recycling bottles and cans probably never comes to mind and if it does, well, you’re in pretty bad shape. But at 10 cents apiece, have you ever thought about just how much money you could make in a month by having your full time job be to recycle bottles and cans? If you haven’t, no worries, that’s why I’m here.
First, let’s give you a set of circumstances so that you actually have a chance to succeed in this venture. Michigan is currently the only state in the US to offer a flat 10 cents for every bottle or can recycled. You can bet that if you live in Michigan, you are less likely to simply throw these away. Roaming the streets for unreturned items will be much more difficult in Michigan, so let’s say you live in a border state of Michigan. Indiana currently has no recycling earnings in place and we’ll put you two hours from the Michigan border (if we put you right on it, your bottle and can situation may not improve).
Second, because you live so far away from Michigan, you’ll need reliable transportation large enough to haul bottles and cans once a week. A Ford F150 has a nice size bed in the back and should be able to hold its fair share of cans not only in the back, but in the front as well. Assuming you fit the maximum amount on each trip, you should be able to hold around 100 bottles and cans in each garbage size bag you seal, and the F150 should have no trouble fitting 50 of those full garbage bags, for a total haul of 5,000 bottles and cans.
Doing some quick math, you realize that at 10 cents a return, 5,000 bottles and cans a week would net you a total of $500. Certainly not bad for a weeks worth of work but, let’s look at this a little bit closer. Would you be able to find that many bottles each and every week?
Working five days a week, you would need to roundup 1,000 bottles and cans every day. You’re a hard worker, so you work 10-hour days, making sure to hit the heavily foot-trafficked areas during lunch and dinner. Breaking it down even further, you would need to collect 100 bottles and cans every hour. And when you’ve found a hot spot, you could probably accomplish this feat in 5-10 minutes. Indianapolis would be a perfect spot to start this business because it’s the right distance from Michigan and is industrial enough to have enough recyclables for you to cash in on.
If you’re really good, you may need to make two trips to the recycling center per week, in which you could stand to earn $1,000 weekly. This all depends of course on how many bottles and cans you can find per day, and just how fast you are. With a big truck comes a big gas bill, and driving 4 or 8 hours a week will probably cut into your profits. Other than gas, you really won’t have any other expenses to speak of, other than a load of laundry every day.
So when you break down the numbers, Kramer and Newman we’re actually on to something. Unless you’re extremely efficient, you probably won’t be able to earn enough to make a living, but spending a few hours a week might turn into an extra few hundred dollars a month. When you add in the benefit to the earth of recycling everything, collecting bottles and cans could turn into a very profitable hobby.
Wojo’s note: By the way, I have no idea how you fit 50 garbage bags into the back of a pickup, but then again, I don’t own a F-150.
I just move out of the way when they roll by…
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Here in Toronto, lots of folks with presumably very little means, cruise the recycling bins to peel out the liquor store or beer store bottles for return. Those are the only bottles worth anything here in Ontario.
Being a full-time bottle collector would most certainly mean the collector would need a big vehicle. Add in the cost of the vehicle, insurance and gas…and I wonder if it’s still worthwhile? The big picture is – we should all return our bottles, there’s money there!
Since I live without a car, if I have anything to return, I usually leave it outside my recycle bin so those on the hunt don’t have to look too hard. Interesting post!
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Well, that’s nice of you!
Great points about the overhead, too. I do wonder if it makes sense as a “second job,” though, in which case some of the overhead would disappear.
On a side note, I obviously wasn’t driving at 11, so we used our bicycles to cruise the streets instead.
Funny junk! Unfortunately the Seinfeld scheme is illegal. Michigan’s law only allows beverage containers from Michigan to be returned for the deposit. Here are a couple of links…
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-10-26-3225980560_x.htm
http://www.deq.state.mi.us/documents/deq-wmd-swp-mibottledepositlawFAQ1.pdf
The other thing to consider is that it is doubtful that a single store will take back all 50 bags of cans. State law protects the right to return up to $25 worth of cans (250 cans) to a single retailer, but after that it is at the discretion of the retailer. If every retailer limited you to 250 cans, you’d have to make 20 stops to unload all the cans.
It is still a funny theory though…
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Two great points! (Like you, I was also trying to figure out how long it would take to return everything over the span of each weekend).
That was one of the best epsidoes – where the mechanic and police were horrified that Jerry didn’t treat his car good lol.
In their plan they had the mail truck!
Great article! My grandfather lives in NYC and used to collect cans and bottles during the day throughout the year. At the end of the year he would buy a plane ticket to go back to China (where he happened to start a school in our home town). After he returned from his trip, he would start collecting for the next year’s plane ticket. Very resourceful guy (and this was in his 70s and 80s)!
What a great story! I’m sure a ticket to China was no small feat to finance, especially at 5 cents a pop!
Our local recycler gives us 41 cents a pound for aluminum. Collecting is not a bad thing to do during our daily walks, though certainly not nearly as profitable as other places.
Out of curiosity–how many cans does one pound translate to, roughly?
According to WikiAnswers, it takes 28-33 empty cans to equal one pound of aluminum.
So about a penny a can. Not bad, considering you don’t have to stick them in a machine one by one to return them.
Great idea, except that it is against the law to redeem cans bought in any other state when you’re in Michigan. If you are caught doing so, you can face a fine of over $500. A no-win situation there. And, it’s not free money. We have to pay a 10 cent deposit when we purchase such items, so basically, we’re just getting our money back. Even if there is not a deposit, you can still recycle them!
CAS, Great points, there are a few links a previous commenter left to the same effect. Since this legal dilemma would cut our income in 1/2, I wonder what the effect would be on the potential income (since you now would not have to drive to a neighboring state, either).
You’re absolutely right–it’s not free money, but this guest post assumes that someone else is carrying the initial deposit load for you, and discards the can. So in some ways, you’re “stealing” money from thousands of other people, but doing it perfectly legally and with benefits to yourself and others.
Collecting cans seems to be one of the biggest employers here in Waikiki, HI. Tons of homeless are constantly searching for plastic bottles and aluminum cans to deposit for 5 cents each and since there’s a constant flow of tourists and decent weather, there’s always money to be made!
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I definitely think this is a VERY localized phenomenon. Some communities take such good care of their streets and trash that it would be impossible to make a living on cans. Elsewhere, conditions are more favorable–like the tourism you mention!
Let me tell this idea of recycling and deposits on bottles and cans. I walk over to my shopping center almost daily. And whenever I go by one of the trash receptacles, I see a few bottles and cans right on top of the trash. Well, I don’t dig down under trash…………..but do take out clean bottles and/ cans if I don’t have too much to carry home. And have an extra bag I can put these into, to carry home and clean out and put in to my recycling bin. The many that I carry home are just out of two or three receptacles out of the 10 trash bins in the whole shopping center…………….and are only 5 or 10 minutes out of a 24 hour day that fill up with bottles and cans all day long!!!!! When I think of how much could be given to adults and kids for a deposit on every one of those cans and bottles instead of put into litter bins to be piled up in dumps……………….and be recycled. It is just too bad what we are doing today instead of what had been done when us ‘baby-boomers’ were kids and had us cleaning up the roadsides for those deposits on bottles. Little did we know what we were doing to help keeping this country beautiful in that respect of litter-bugging. Every little bit helps to have those bottles and cans off the roadside…………….and how much trash we could keep out of the receptacles and back to a recycling place if ALL OF THE STATES had deposits on bottles and cans. And lots of kids AND adults would help do it if ALL OF THE STATES would do it, not just a few. How many others of us Americans agree? And could somehow work on getting it to happen??????
It’s a stereotype that hobos and homeless people do this on a regular basis as a means to get a bit of spare change. But I think it’s a great one, And I also think it’s pretty darned resourceful. It’s like they know something we sheltered people do not. I guess it works fine if your overhead is low.
I collect cans and bottles when I have spare time. I have a regular job also and consider it a resourceful means to get some exercise and get paid for it. I ride my bike and put the cans in a bag. I have noticed though that local co-workers have recognized me as the weird guy that picks up ‘trash’ along the side of the road. I wear it as a badge of honor. The time it takes me to collect $5 worth of recyclables is huge and reminds me of trouble it takes to make an honest buck today. It has taught me that we have it pretty good in the USA too. If we ever get real hard times, I expect to see more folks picking up cans and bottles instead of jeering me and looking at me a leper or something.